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When I get my laptop, I'm gonna install VB6 and start trying that out.

Lee will help me with it all, so it's a lot easier.

Ah, I never really bothered with looking things up.

So meh. :oops:

J# was included in VS 2005 to try and encourage people to use it. It failed. J# has been subsequently dropped from VS 2008, and the Microsoft team do not intend to support it further. It's gone the same way as J++ from VS 6.0, nowhere :P

For more information read up about it on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Studio_2008#Visual_Studio_2008 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J_Sharp#Future_of_J.23

[quote="Stitch"]Meh, I wanna learn something easy, but simple.

Basically, all I can remember in VB.NET is

[code]MsgBox()[/code][/quote]That's the VB6 method actually.
The .NET method is MessageBox.Show(). ;)


[quote="Nightma12"]Wasnt J# a failure? :/ I never *EVER* hear of anybody useing it...[/quote]J# wasn't a failure, otherwise I doubt it would've been included with VS .NET 2005. :o

pretty much all modern OSs come with a JRE... since fucktons of stuff on the internet use java or javascript

Wasnt J# a failure? :/ I never *EVER* hear of anybody useing it...

MsgBox()

Meh, I wanna learn something easy, but simple.

Basically, all I can remember in VB.NET is

[code]
MsgBox()
[/code]


weeeeeeeee

Ah, quoting ftw usually. ;)

Then yeah, I agree w/ your response. :oops:

I was actually replying to the post above yours, but you replied before I submitted mine :P

[quote="danpaul88"]Hmm... you might want to reconsider Java. That was the first 'real' programming language I learnt, and while its great for forcing you to program in an Object Oriented style and define everything properly, it's not used very much because of the necessity of installing the JRE on any machine where you want to actually run the program, while true compiled languages such as C++ can be run on any machine without any additional software.

EG: A simple hello world program in C++ would probably be about 1kb, in Java about the same, but then in Java you have to download a 15mb JRE in order to actually run the hello world program. All of a sudden your simple program has turned into a 15mb download.[/quote]The only reason I had mentioned J# is because of the .NET aspect to it.
J# is just Java in .NET form, which requires the .NET framework to use (as most methods are shared amongst all .NET languages, thus eliminating the 'extra download' factor, aside from the framework of course). ;)

Java is one thing, J# is an entirely different thing aside from syntax (I should know, I've worked with both in the past). 8-)

Hmm... you might want to reconsider Java. That was the first 'real' programming language I learnt, and while its great for forcing you to program in an Object Oriented style and define everything properly, it's not used very much because of the necessity of installing the JRE on any machine where you want to actually run the program, while true compiled languages such as C++ can be run on any machine without any additional software.

EG: A simple hello world program in C++ would probably be about 1kb, in Java about the same, but then in Java you have to download a 15mb JRE in order to actually run the hello world program. All of a sudden your simple program has turned into a 15mb download.

[quote="Stitch"]I want to learn a programming language - but VB.NET is just a nightmare for me to remember.

VB6 is kinda what I wanna learn because I can turn to Lee for help...

REALbasic sounds... basic... lol[/quote]VB .NET is probably one of the easiest languages you could ever learn honestly.
Sure there are a lot of methods to learn (most of which even I don't memorize, but resort to MSDN when necessary), but it's worth the effort in learning and then some -- you also have more than Lee to turn to if you choose to learn it. ;)

You also have the advantage of essentially knowing most of the other .NET languages (C#, J#, etc) simply because of the fact that you know it (as almost all .NET languages use the same shared methods). The only real difference between them is syntax, which is the only challenge at that point.


But yeah, you can learn them in any order honestly. If you're extremely worried about not being able to remember things at first, learn VB .NET as a start, then work into C# (since you'll know most of the standard methods at that point) and work backward into C++ if you feel you can handle it, which is one of the more powerful languages you could learn.

Yeah good call. but i know and like .NET and VB6 don't want/need to learn C I think java would be an interesting one to learn tho.

If your wanting to learn a programming language I would suggest C++, or C# if you want simplified GUI management. C++ is very good for low level stuff, you can do pretty much anything you want, C# is not quite as low level as C++, but being a .NET language it has a lot of handy windows API stuff you can use, and creating GUI's in C# is a piece of cake, drag and drop stuff wherever you want it.

The C family of languages is more widely used in industry at the moment than VB is, and they are a lot closer syntactically to older languages which are still frequently used, such as Pascal.

[quote]REALbasic sounds... basic... lol[/quote]

And Visual Basic (VB) does not? :P

I want to learn a programming language - but VB.NET is just a nightmare for me to remember.

VB6 is kinda what I wanna learn because I can turn to Lee for help...

REALbasic sounds... basic... lol